thank you for spending part of your monday with us, the beat with ari melber starts right now. hey ari melber, what's up? >> what's up michael, i know you're keeping busy. in a minute or less, because you've already been working a long day. what's most important to watch for tomorrow? >> i think steve laid it out as the key parts of new hampshire where there's independent and democratic voters who decide to come out and support nikki. whether or not they really do, and does it make a difference? so i think it is still a slog though, i think it's going to be a slog. >> a slog, yeah, interesting, you know jack kennedy? i love you so much, anyone who

says you so much talk on tv, knows i love you. and then you're still no -- sir. >> it's a hair thing that gives it away. by the way, a muppet friend of ours, a mutual friend says hello. he knew i would be on today. so he's looking forward to spending some time with you at one point. >> i cannot wait, tell him i'm really proud of how you continue to grow in your analysis, your hosting, your guest hosting, your weekend ensemble. there is nothing you can't do michael, see you soon. >> you've got it my friend! >> respect, all right thanks to my friend michael steele. and were queuing the election music. because you know what time it is. we are on the eve of the big vote in new hampshire. this is the first primary of 2024. but this is also the first and greatest major disruption we have seen in the republican race. a primary that began with the former president running earlier than anyone in history. and facing those other candidates they spied on the

big stage that donald trump boycotted. that race is now down to just these two candidates. for the first time, the republican party in america as it watches look at this choice between a famous and well funded former president and his former appointee nikki haley. who has now beat out seven republicans to get to this one-on-one face-off. >> can you hear that sound? [applause] that is the sound of a two-person race. [applause] >> that is true. haley finding a little momentum, good move there, because she is touting her political success, with this primary today, far faster than 16. when then candidate trump benefited from a long and divided republican field. so i want to go with a basic

point that sometimes gets lost, if this were an open primary with no quasi-incumbt former president. just a primary between two senators. for example, like in 2008, we might pc something very different than we see in the cycle when it became a two-person race. for democrats, that was a time for battle. and for two person debates. and for voters to learn and weigh the choice. the choice between the two is very different, and usually something to focus on among five, or eight of the early days. in fact, if you recall when that case did narrowed down, then continued on until june before clinton ultimately dropped out. many people in states weighed in. and that road all began where? you're watching the news, you might even remember. it really began when clinton was able to excel in the new hampshire primary. and up and what is often the wrong and misplaced d.c. elite narrative which relies on

expectations and pulling. clinton came back in new hampshire and shook up the race, and set the stage for a long one-on-one primary fight. >> this is very personal for me. it is not just political, it's not just public. i see what is happening. and we have to reverse it. >> and the results, a surprise! >> for the democrats, hillary clinton coming with 39% of the vote. taking the top spot. senator barack obama coming in surprising second place with 37%. john edwards placing third with just 70%. >> late poll said the former first lady was losing big in barack obama's chart seemed unstoppable. instead, the upset rescue. clinton's white house hopes and sets up what looks like a long battle. >> polls, polls, polls. expectations, unstoppable. it is mostly crap. and some of it comes out of the media, and some of it comes out of the political class. but, time and time again we see

the limits of that. does not mean that it won't happen, does it mean the person leading in the new hampshire polls won't win tomorrow, it just means it's not as in as they want you to believe. something i always try to share with you on the evidence. today, we're back in the first field of the republicans,nd it's back to race. some of the magarepublicans are trying to push nikki haley out with the sameexpectations and polls. they argue that she may not -- she may have to drop out even this week if she has an underperformance. if you hear the sarcasm dripping in my voice it is not because i have a particular feeling about any particular candidate on this one, it is sarcasm for the people saying that under performance defined by who? who decides what is doing well enough? well, the self appointed elites. of course tomorrow is just the

first day voting in a primary, only two states will have weighed in at. also i don't know that it is accurate to say that anyone has to drop out because they underperformed this expectations game. that is one piece of it. the other piece, in fairness to what is going on, is a political reality. there are certainly many republican leaders and voters who want trump and therefore do want to fast-track him. this one time, outsider disruptor is benefiting from that party establishment. that's a political reality i can also report for you. for a citizen, raeford ja'marr crisi, we've heard a lot about democracy in the last couple of years? there is no better even logic to try to short-circuit a process of democracy where perhaps more than two states would weigh in. the political medias fixation on polls and choices, is not pro trump. it's just a bad habit that kicks in every election cycle. i showed you some example. as for the substance? and what the republicans will

get time in the states to see these two finalists? haley is arguing that they should. she is also arguing that there is important, and even allegedly dangerous failings from a republican perspective by donald trump. she says the party must consider before rushing this choice. >> it is not just that. he congratulated china's president xi doesn't time after china gave us covid. i had to sit him down, and tell him to stop this bromance with putin. but don't be surprised if you have someone who is 80 in office. their mental stability is going to continue to decline. >> mental stability? interesting point of reference that she made. the longer race would also test the candidates on the very point she raised. are the candidates up to their job? voters can weigh that on many levels. donald trump, let's recall, duct debates all primary cycle. he generally avoids all

adversarial interviews where he would be tested. and this race has only just begun, but he has already n, through this testing and campaigning process, been caught in a gas, where according to local reports, he seemed to blatantly confuse, not lie, but actually just misunderstanding confuse nikki haley with former speaker, nancy pelosi. it was a kind of confusing moment or word salad in which haley is arguing to republican and shows that trump is basically being told and dealing with questions about his mental fitness. >> and do we really want to go into an election with two fellas who are going to be present in their 80s? and that is not ageism that i am saying here. >> he claims that joe biden was going to get us into world war ii. i'm assuming he meant world war iii.

he said he ran against president obama, he never ran against president obama. we cannot have someone else that we question, whether they are mentally fit to do this. we cannot. >> that is the case that she is making here over the weekend as the field narrows to two, and you heard her sight use specific examples. the alleged confusion over who actually was in charge of the congress. was it nancy pelosi are? her and the confusion in which world war might be in the future. can you remember that it's two or three? and with all questions, you heard her say that she doesn't want to do ageism. these questions raised about either of the perceived front runners on the older side. these questions can be addressed. and voters can take them and consider them. all the way back to reagan, and fdr, at times where with different levels of medical technology, the voting populace looked at age, experience, wisdom, up against youth, and whatever you call the other side of that.

and made a choice. but will republican voters even get a couple of weeks to think about this? or will it be short-circuited? we know that trump won iowa, that was obviously good for him. better than he did in 16. we also know, kornacki and others remind everyone that what we are going to see in the electorate tomorrow and in new hampshire is more different. more independents, few conservative red state evangelicals, and doubled the number of suburban voters which is a key difference if you're looking towards a general election. because the people voting tomorrow are going to look way more in the electorate, like what the republican party needs in the general that the people who voted last week in iowa. there are polls including one taken after desantis dropped out that still showed trump in the league. and as i have told you, what you see here is a sizable lead in a two-person race. and if trump can demonstrate those numbers in multiple states, well, the math tells a story that it is over. the question that hangs over

all of us tonight after i just reminded you of a different cycle where some people propose. is whether the voting will go on, and democracy will have any time to coalesce, or are we looking at potentially, some have demanded and i've shown, you it's part of what the right-wing in the press seemed to agree on. if nikki haley doesn't get a close enough, are over the line tomorrow that this whole thing should end in january. this is the discourse, and haley hit it pretty hard. we look at this on the facts, on the evidence, and on the ground and that is why we start tonight with nbc's gary hague live in new hampshire. doing the thing and the reporting. i hope you are warm, and keeping warm. welcome back. how are you doing sir? >> reporter: mostly we are inside tonight. >> that, i want to go over the numbers with you, you've been on the ground, from a numbers based, reporting view of what you've seen on the ground. is there enough of a shift coming? does it make a big difference of the two person race? and what do you make of haley

hitting so much harder in the last three days? >> reporter: let me start there, ari melber, mickey is doing two things that are interesting. she's trying to make the case that you appointed with, that she is in the long haul. she has no option of dropping out in new hampshire. she wants to keep competing. it's worth noting that the process on the republican side is stacked against her in a way that it wasn't for hillary clinton in your previous example. the republican process becomes when or take all and states. a mix of them start on super tuesday, that's more than a month from now, just the beginning of march so the prospect of a long, democratic battle here maybe curtailed for her if her results don't change. but the attacks that she has leveled on trump have also been more interesting, more focused in terms of the idea of his mental capacity. and don't miss how she does it. she links trump to joe biden. it is taken as an article of faith among poor republican voters that joe biden doesn't have what it takes mentally to do the job as president

anymore. so she can reach out to those republican voters who are skeptical of her on a point that they believe of this other guy and link it to donald trump. there is a pathway there, these republican voters who are so committed to donald trump to start seeing it her way. trump on the other hand is gonna do something tonight where he's basically gonna have the maga adventures with him onstage at his rally, a little upstate from where i am. all the other republicans, minus rhonda scent, is who he has already knocked out of this race. he has flooded new hampshire with surrogates, he's trying to make the argument that the republican party is with him. even people who ran against him. and that the time has come for either nikki haley to hang this up, or voters to show her the door. so he is absolutely pushing for that early exit, whether it happens tomorrow, or a couple of weeks from now, the trump campaign has made very clear that they want to try to make her life miserable. make her feel very isolated within the republican party. and it is just her still having this battle. it's part of the reason over the weekend they had a bunch of lawmakers from south carolina

in her own state. the next major state up here in new hampshire. to send a message to nikki haley that the next state is not going to be any friendlier than what she sees in new hampshire. i'll just end with this, remember the surprise in new hampshire could go both ways. the polling can also be run in the other direction. and we could see significant, more significant than expected trump when. i do not think that we should foreclose that possibility, because i can tell, you his campaign certainly is not. >> yes, and i mentioned to viewers, garrett, my point is not that the polls are always wrong, or that you can't take anything from them. you can take a certain amount. but the variance is wide, especially when there is so much disruption here. so i appreciate. your points, your reporting, stay warm. we'll see you soon get. we're just getting started, a trump lawyer speaking out, his remarks and what he thinks in the trump conviction in the

state. plus, jake medina is here, taking somewhat of a victory lap. because he says that ron desantis flame out says a lot about him, and the republican party. we'll get in deeper on this two-person race. we'll see you back in 60 seconds! seconds! and gentler on your skin. try downy free & gentle. >> can you hear that sound?

[applause] that's a sound of a two-person race. [applause] nikki haley, stunting on clearing the field. we're joined now by someone who knows more about this. republican governor, john kasich, who ran in the state of ohio and finished second in the republican primary in 16. we're gonna get some familiar faces. and longtime washington political veteran, margaret carlson, governor. we went through a lot of it. your thoughts tonight?

>> i think what hailie is counting on are the independents and the democrats to come over and vote in the primary. i think the problem that she is having is that she doesn't have a comparative narrative when we elected to our mccain you couldn't put him in a box, he was independent, iconoclastic. that's where she is wasting space. so much overtime just to attack trump. that's fine, but what are you gonna do? what is it that you're going to do to get your people excited? and because of that, the wave that will come from the independents and the democrats will not be as great. probably not enough to have her when. she is, my friends on the ground in new hampshire say that they think that these polls, which are really getting clobbered are probably not right, they're looking at probably about 10 to 12. we will have to see. because as you know, it's not over until it is over. >> yes, margaret? >> governor, if she only had narrative from 2016 to be doing

better. i think she is hampered by a couple of things. one is that she is not clear on the issues, especially on abortion which is part of so many things. and now she only is having going against trump for her. his voters, the quote, maga people are all going to turn out. and she is dependent on independents and democrats crossing over. moderate republicans feeling that this is so crucial that this is the last chance for the republican party to not give it over to trump again. the disaster that that might be. that they come out. and the next, harder, that's a harder turnout question than trump's. because his people come out no matter what. >> and governor, when you look at what she is trying to do here, as you have said she needs a narrative behind trump but she is also trying to make up for a really odd dynamic in the primary, where we were told

over and over that you need a soft maga voter to appeal to trump. well, the desantis and others who tried to do that, they dropped earlier than her. what does it tell you as someone who has also argued that you could be a strong, traditional conservative but have an open minded, independent reform its view in the party. what does it tell you that she is the one standing? also when these other narratives are overdone? >> i think first of all she did well in the debate. so people like that. and there was a perception that she was somewhat more moderate. i think part of the issue that she has, sorry, is when people look at when the democrats, independents look at the record. they thought, i thought she was so moderate, she is not. she is conservative. and those folks that are listening are gonna come. and the fact that when these trump people are saying that they would go through anything to vote for him. i think the other issue raised by how does this go is the next races in south carolina. and right now as you know,

trump is way ahead down there. and one of the issues that i think she is going to face is all politicians do, is there to make so many enemies at the way out that they are coming to get you? and the real issue is can she win in south carolina or can she come close heading into super tuesday? so it's all decisions that she has to make about why she is doing this and what her narrative is. >> yes, as we look close-up, margaret, the governor races another point. there's so much talk with her about the trump alternative. okay she is not a coup leader, she is not bright maga red, but it is a little bit like if you've ever had one of those waldorf salads, and then they put the lobster, or they put the wagyu beef on top. and you say oh i've got this, it's still a salad. if it's a salad with all the other stuff on it, how salad is it? and margaret, i think the governor who knows these folks well, knows, i don't know, eight, nine, out of ten issues.

if you're looking at the way the government is run, not the rhetoric or the trump who, plushy would still be, as best we can tell, pretty conservative? >> where do you get your waldorf salad, ari? i've never heard of this kind of thing. >> you've never seen it when they put the extras on it? >> now i have not. and i've seen a lot of food mistakes, but i have not seen that one. desantis was a disaster because he was trying to peel off maga voters. haley now says that there is no middle ground here. and she's coming out against trump. and so it's clear in new hampshire that she is the trump alternative and she is all but been swept. you can hope that they come out for her but it's still her manner is not anti trump and, novelties not willing to really, for me and she were asked if they were to be in tonight and she were to ask who, would you support trump if he is the

nominee? she would say yes. that is the nikki haley problem. she is not clear about who she is and where she stands, she is trying to please too many people. and desantis showed you are not going to get the maga voters. so just write them off and come out hard for who you are. and she is all that is left. i mean she is good. it should not be that way, only 56,000 people voted in iowa and maybe, governor you would know, 100,000 in new hampshire and that is going to decide who is the nominee of the republican party, that is not right. >> no, and i'm over on time. but that's what i was saying over about the democracy of it all. we'll be watching with the voters to do tomorrow. margaret, or john, or governor kasich with the titles. my respect to both of you as we make sense of it all. i appreciate it. coming up, margaret was just mentioning the desantis

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i didn't do it? and he said that to the world hair. talk about negative politics. to prove he did not do it, how would you prove? it say he didn't do it. >> lawyer joe tacopina making a case for a defendant trump. at one of the many court houses where trump faces these criminal trials. trum there the defense table. a key figure of the case in new york, in the civil case in new york, he has been viewed as a legal asset with a long history of trial court winds as the new york times reports. and a very assertive style which tacopina ace both in court and in interviews. you may recall that one. he's back in the news now

because he has now exited both of these trump cases that he was working on. the new york criminal trial and where you just heard the que from, the sound that you just heard, the carroll defamation case. the timing is striking because both of these cases have actually been heating up. this comes after reported clashes among several trump lawyers. we have news on this from night, i mentioned it on the show, i want to mention it to you now. because tacopina is actually making his first public reports on all of this to end s and bcc al sharpton. >> i left the team because it was just my time. there were things that did not work out for me, that did not make me want to continue in that role. i had to follow my guts, and my compass told me that my time there was done. >> those with a new remarks. the interview also featured a striking one for his now former client, defendant donald trump. tacopina says it is absolutely

possible that trump could be convicted. especially in the other cases where tacopina was not a lawyer handling it. he also notes that jack smith is a serious force. >> the manhattan d.a.'s case that i was on, i don't think that there is a strong case. there's other cases, georgia, washington, d.c.. >> you think some of them are strong cases? >> those are serious cases, the two federal cases are serious cases. and they are not to be taken lightly. >> is it possible that donald trump could end up convicted of one of these cases in your mind? >> is it possible? absolutely. >> absolutely. now that is farther than tacopino needs to go discussing this in public. it may reflect his pr legal view of the damning evidence in that jack smith case. or it may also reflect or include some type of shade in those reported tensions between tacopino in the new york cases, and his former colleagues. the other trump lawyers handling the smith case. you heard from one of them just

last week. they appeals courts will soon decide if the coup case brought by jack smith, as you see there in red on appeal now, will actually happen in march or it gets delayed. tacopino whole case is slated to begin after that, and you can see trump's rocky year. trump needs all the lawyers that he can handle for all his different defenses so the new exits may lead a vacuum. for other trump lawyers, others who have struggled in court. which snl marked this weekend. >> thank you alina, you are great on tv. maybe the worst lawyer i have ever had, which is quite an accomplishment. look at this team? this is the bottom of the barrel folks. yes, i am in the league for president and this is the best i can get. feels like a red flag. you're not getting paid by the way, you know that. of course you do. all right, thank you, thank you guys. we'll see you at shaky's. get out of here.

>> this is how we live now. some of the punch lines may ring true. we know trump prizes loyal and public arguments, even over people's actual courtroom experiences. when tacopino was here, he was one of the most passionate we have seen. >> i broke a car, i purchased a horse. that's in the record, that's a lie really. but there is no crime there. >> you seem to be putting forward a defense that is the kind that we have heard from trump before. other people are doing these things, so he's in on it. >> i'm his lawyer who is advising. >> did you know about this? >> put the paper down. let me answer. it >> did you know about this? >> no i don't, we don't need that. >> to be clear, there are several trump lawyers who have exited without an incident. trump aides in the non legal, political contacts are known with a lot of turnover. but other lawyers have left trumped employ under duress, because of trump's conduct,

alleged behavior, and sometimes proven behavior. he's turned his own lawyers into witnesses with alleged demand that they break the law. or worse, there's a trail of lawyers that have been indicted and now convicted because of what they did. not for themselves or some personal reason but for trump. and that is where this saar goes beyond any personal update. trump had a r.i.c.o. charge in georgia, several lawyers did not defend him there. in that trial, and among the others i have showed you. they've all been convicted of their own crime or crimes for his plot to overturn the election. some turned repentant like jenna ellis. who went forward in defending trump in lying about the election. when we heard from her back in 2020, to try to take it all back as she pled guilty. >> if i knew then what i know now i would have declined to have represented donald trump in these postelection challenges. i look back on this full expanse with deep remorse. >> deep for more. switches proven more common for

the lawyers than for the clients who. he shows none of that remorse. does not even say, separate from denying criminal liability, whether anything could've been done better or differently. so while this is a very separate track as it's supposed to be independent and partisan for the election going on in the voting of tomorrow and other issues that we have discussed with now one remaining candidate, nikki haley, against trump. this is very much the question for the country this year. do you look for the evidence and decide that this person should or should not be returned to power? or do you look at the legal process if it is allowed to go forward and find that if he is convicted by a jury of his peers, that weighs on you. and donald trump, having gotten fewer votes. gets by then in 20. fewer votes than clinton and 16 when he got the electoral college. he cannot lose that in votes. the process might be independent, i have told you that before, the outcome, the impact, it could all come crashing together before election day.

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election news. including what broke over the weekend. florida governor, desantis, dropping out of the race. his campaignasd just under eight months. some say it is one of the worst running campaigns and memory. we're gonna get into this right

now. because it goes behind how the florida governor may come across. his former newspaper said he was the governor with all of the charis burnt toast after his exit. others said the campaign was due because of the muddled message. and because of the public message they told msnbc that there was a failure to launch to blow up on the launchpad. going into this segment here, while we're teasing it, the disastrous campaign announcement with elon musk is not the worst in the world. you could overcome it but it was humiliated and tied to other blind spots that desantis had threw out. >> these individuals who have done more to loosen the [silence] >> so, legacy. it looks like we're crashing? >> that is how the florida government's big interest into the republican presidential primary will be forever remembered. >> i will be able to destroy

left-ism in this country. and be woke ideology in the dustbin of history. >> desantis campaigning in new hampshire. not overtly talking about the former president during his scripted remarks. >> leadership is also not entertainment. it's not about building a brand, it's not about virtue signaling. >> ron desantis is shaking up his presidential campaign. new numbers show he is burning through cash as he struggles to catch up to former president trump. >> he is not someone who is going to put his arm around you and make you feel better. he doesn't have that emotional connection. >> nbc news can now project that ron desantis will come in second place in the iowa caucuses. >> this is his only a hope. and he's gonna be and it abate by 30 points. >> despite all of that they threw at us, everyone against us, we have our ticket punched out of iowa! >> we don't have a clear path to victory. according to today, i am

suspending my campaign. >> ron desantis was always overhyped because he was never adfor primetime. >> there it was, there it went, and here we are. i'm joined now by a campaign strategy and political strategist. and the guest of something that we call che de, when we look at politics, welcome back. >> you don't like ron desantis, you don't agree with rhonda scientist, but you have shown to be a representative of politics and history. and this is when in 5 to 10 years, there was so much hype and buzz to begin with. educate us on the story of desantis. >> this was a historically bad campaign, but it's historically bad i would argue for two specific reasons, one day or one reason why is this was an attempt by the local establishment, fox news, the

washington review, donors, to try trump-ism without trump. can we do trump-ism, capture the magic of michael without donald trump? the answer was resoundingly, no. there's no trump-ism without trump. and the reason is that ron desantis talked about is that leadership is not entertainment. for maga, it is entertainment. donald trump is not a political figure, he is an entertainment figure. when people ask, why does nothing seem to hurt donald trump that would follow a normal politician? nothing really hurts kim kardashian very much either. donald trump's followers, his voters, relate to him in a different way. there is a cult of personality where they connect their anger and their unhappiness, to the cause of electing donald trump. ron desantis doesn't have it. his lack of charisma and it's basic lack of human personality. they simply do not have that combination. the other thing that makes it historically significant was his speech and then his

campaign. he criticized nikki haley as having warmed over corporate republicanism. ron desantis has spent his whole life defending corporate republicanism. it's the republicanism of ronald reagan. that speech to me and it reagan-ism. and i think that it could be really ended tomorrow night in new hampshire if nikki haley reaches. >> it all goes to him as a trump substitute. then there is the way that he tried to tap into what he thought were hot topics. and they turned out to be only hot on elon musk twitter and some certain parts of the internet. which i think is interesting. i would argue that you could see politicians do this in both parties, to be clear. but the right-wing seems to have this problem or now. so, crtc, or dei, or any other acronym that no one was really talking about. is suddenly a national issues at times. to break on today's some of the weird stuff he was talking about. so i am reminded of something

that drake said. careful how you're walking when your laces are too tight. you can't get a ten, from looking at your focal light. go outside, get off your phone. i think we all do that sometime in various ways. the rest of the media, and the political class, if you want to call it that. but it was, to put it in traits terminology, rhonda sanchez and his team. to captivated by their phone light and not in touch with the reality. even the republican, base nonetheless the whole country. >> this has been discussed in the new york times, but also the democratic party. the democrats are two into academic jargon, and buzzwords, and things like that. this was the republican voted version of it. and it was very mean spirited, and done by ron was desantis. that was a campaign strategy. to run on this anti-woke-ism. the whole penalty of issues that the right-wing brings up

for americans to care about. americans didn't care about that. >> well let's go on that. the elite gap there between the republican audience that might laugh at awoke punchline. might watch a tiktok saying that the world has gone too far. but he's taking this pitch to america on that rather than whatever, jobs make it a very elite bubble and out of touch. >> exactly, the big factor here is ron desantis. you can talk about campaign strategies, look, people like me go on the shows and we talk about campaign strategies, the reality is it's down to the candidates. a great candidate can make a bad campaign strategy work. but a bad candidate cannot make a great candidate strategy work. so you can talk about whether or not the strategy was affective or not, the reality is desantis simply did not have it. he was a bad politician, he was

a bad messenger for whatever that campaign was trying to do. >> what about a bad slogan? can a good candidate save a terrible slogan? like they've come up with stronger together? moving america forward? i don't know what that means. can a good enough candidate, can jfk save a bad slogan? >> yes, i think they can. if people like you, it goes a long way. and we had a candidate, a very camp admirable person. and he had a slogan. the best is yet to come. >> that's a very progressive way to put it. rather than arguing back where. do you admit that some of the slogans were bad? >> well, yes. >> who says moving america forward? it's barely something anyone would say. >> exactly, it's not something that normal people would do. one of the things that obama did, he had the brilliant of a one word slogan. hope, change, forward. and he embodied that.

he was able to make people. >> don't forget, we're doing that in a little bit of a seasick way. >> exactly, yes we can. exactly. >> very concise, very good. but it really helps if barack obama is the one delivering that message. >> well, as you would say [speaking in a global language] >> i took spanish -- i didn't take spanish, i actually took french. >> do you want to try something? >> [speaking in a global language] see you soon. >> respect. this is why i like having you around, it's real, it's real. good to see you chai komanduri. you were tough, but not unfair. tough, but not unfair. chai komanduri, we love it. a lot going on. next, when you go to new hampshire tomorrow. there's one thing to know, and we have that for you. next! next you could save thousands and get to your goals faster. sofi. get your money right.

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republican party. that's one of the reasons i have spoken out so strongly against the president. it's wrong and we have to put a stop to it. >> speaking strongly, putting a stop tot are two things mace is obviously no l doing. former trumpampaign official says there will be a lot of people on plao mar-a-lago in the next coupleweek a lot of folks trying me sure they, quote, kiss the ring in the appropriate timeframe. that timeframe is something i referred to at the top of tonight's program. remember, the maga political part of this also overlaps with this polling horse race media narrative that somehow if you don't it within five, ten, or 15 days you have lost your shot and no one can handle a couple weeks of voting. with republicans closing ranks, one question is, is there any other way to do this? remember, this is someone who loses a lot and his primary rivals know that. >> if donald trump is the

nominee, the election will revolve around all these legal issues, his trials, perhaps convictions if he goes to trial and loses there. and about things like january 6th. we're going to lose. >> the reality is, who lost the house for us, who lost the senate, who lost the white house? donald trump, donald trump, donald trump. >> those are just recent political facts. that's even apart from some of the bigger heavier ethical issues. just the fact that he's never gotten more votes than an opponent and he's not any more popular than he used to be. things could change, we don't know what will happen in the future, but ron desantis himself was saying, he just endorsed trump. we just walked through some of his problems in the campaign. here's what he was saying just comments days apart. >> you can be the most worthless republican in america, but if you kiss the ring, he'll say you're wonderful. >> i signed a pledge to support

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